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Porcelain Marking - Cross inside an urn/vase?
I recently purchased a small dish from a charity shop, which has a picture of a butterfly in the centre.
The makers mark is a bit faded but resembles an urn/vase with a cross in the centre. I was just wondering where it was originally from.
Thank you
The dish is about 2-3mm thin.
The makers mark is on the base, it's very faded though (I mistook it for the remains of a sticky label when I first saw it).
The urn has no handles.
ok, describe the plate, the color of the marker from the maker, how thin is it?.....some of the french porcelain that supported the catholic churches back in ww-2 had a mark that was like a "fluer-d-lis",.....and had a cross but I dont recall it being iin the inside of the vessel but rather on the bottom. and it was a darker carmine color or reddish........there are a few chinese makers who marked their stuff with a "vessel and cross", it represented the body and blood of Christ if I'm not mistaken...and the makers were churches and there were very few churches which might be a good sign for you in this search of yours....I suspect what you have comes from an older catholic church......."Possibly a wafer platter" or part of a set of them but not having seen it, I cannot say for sure,.....One other thing,......there is a town in Italy "bonnell fieosole" where they are known for their detailed, hand carved wooden vessels that they coat in plaster and then impress desings upon and color and gold leaf and then more color then there are other towns near there that are known for their porcelain,.....since the mark seems to be of catholic origin I'd be searching the internet for porcelain makers in france and italy from the ww-2 period or just before bewteen ww-1 and ww-2. Thats where I'd begin, and there are ceramic mueums that have makers marks on file and they could tell you right off the bat who made it and about when. the symbols seems familiar to me though If the mark is an upwardly curving vase shape with a smaller base and a top on the vessel " as just an outline and the cross is in the middle, Start looking for "body of Christ",Holy savior, savior of or any of the nunneries from tht time period in those countries.....if the urn has handles on it, it's almost surely french and the handles will look like ears sticking out besiude it........thats all I can tell you about the mark. alot of the nunneries like sisters of, or servants of, it tghey were orphanages, they almost always had some ceramic expert that they were sheltering wqho taught some of the kids and made profit for the orphanages and each ot those organizations would use a single mark to represent who they were........only two other places I can think of,.One is Scotland in the north and the other is "china" China is known for having been responsible for more fake pottery than any other country and your piece could be a fake..........But I suspect it isnt a fake cuz it's just one piece, not much profit in that. the more you learn about the meaning sof symbols, the more you'll find out about your little plate & then you'll start buyoing more and more and more cuz it will make you passionate.......hahahaha "not really". The movie "the bible coad" shows several chruches that are important because of their symbology and decor in fact "Joseph & Mary, the father andf mother to Jesus Christ ended their days up in Scotland" or so experst think and I agree with them, & an Idea that Mary herself was the holy grail or the top of the bloodline of Christ himself abides in alot of researchers minds that Mary and Joseph almost had to be protected even in their oldest years and almost every story about some part of the bloodline has it's own symbol in history and loacation much like the "Knights Templars" Who built chruches, libraries, collected taxes, made banks anb roads and provided strong covber for travelers and each of those knight had his own little story that is given a symbol alot of the time,.....Ther's one more factoid I'd be looking for and that is "sources of Kaolin clay in france, Italy , Kaolin is what makes porcelain what it is, stable and very fine......your item almost surely came through Brtitain and I wouldndt spare that location some thought. hope this helps, it would be tragic if the plate was from Japan!..not oput of the question though.
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